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EC Update: Are kids who use elimination communication out of diapers earlier?

I have been meaning to post updates on our elimination communication journey (I’ve been meaning to do a lot of things).

I think I said it.  EC is a journey.  Traditional, mainstream potty training seems to be more of an event.  That is, with EC we started very early–Anjali’s 2nd week or so–and continue now that she is 2.  The approach with potty training is to let kids poop and pee in their diaper until about age 2, then flip the script suddenly and tell them they need to do it differently now.

Although EC takes a conscious effort for a longer period of time, it is really about communication.  It respects the fact that infants have an innate ability to recognize when they have to go.  It is much more hygienic.  Plus, there’s WAY less poop to clean out of diapers, cloths, skin etc.

Are kids who use EC out of diapers earlier?  On average, yes.  Many are “potty trained” by 18 months.

Anjali was not.  But she was telling us very often when she had to pee or poop.  When we kept her diaper free, which was most of the time when we were at home, she would go to the potty herself, often without even mentioning it.  We kept her wipes in an easy-to-reach drawer for her, and she started getting them and wiping herself (for pees) by 20 months or so.

A few months ago I started putting her in underwear.  She was pretty good about telling me if she had to go.  She definitely told me if she did go.  I would always make sure to have a change of clothes if we were out, and I carried along this little Potette Plus foldable and portable potty (that little thing rocks, although Anjali is NOT into public bathrooms…I don’t blame her).  And I would remind her, “Just let me know if you have to potty.  I have your potty seat with me, or we can go home…”

Those can be some funny times because Anjali was just doing her thing–playing and having fun–while I was being a little paranoid, asking her too often if she has to go.  In some ways I think that it was a good thing when she peed and didn’t make it to a potty…Sort of a reminder.  And in underwear she could definitely feel it.

I noticed about a month ago, while we were sometimes using underwear, but still uncomfortable without a diaper in long excursions out of the house, that she would usually pee in the diaper if she had one on, but would hold it until we got home if she had underwear on.  That’s when I realized I am done with putting her in the diapers.

Now she’s just a month over 2 years old.  I barely think of doing anything else but putting underwear on her.  I may remind her once in a while that she has underwear on, so she has to tell me if she needs to go.  But generally, in the last two weeks, I don’t even think about it.  I trust that she’ll tell me, and I know that she is good about holding it until we’re home.

I would say she is now officially out of diapers, though we still (perhaps out of some sort of paranoia) put her in one at night, despite the fact that the diaper is always dry in the morning.

I think it’s pretty cool to watch this natural progression and awareness in Anjali.  While there were some “potty strikes,” where she would refuse the potty at certain times, for a week or so, we haven’t had the battles I hear about with conventional potty training.  We don’t have any Elmo potty books, or videos that teach about using the potty.  We don’t applaud her or give her a sticker when she goes, and we never have.  We have always made it just a part of what we all do (an open door policy helps too).

Today Anjali grabbed her little Baby Bjorn Potty Seat from the hook and put it on the toilet, saying she had to pee.  I reached to pick her up and put her on the seat.  She said, “No.  I do it myself.”  She climbed right up there with a little struggle, adjusted herself, peed and climbed back down, ready for action.

I love it.

Diaper Free: I’ll Take Poop On The Floor Over Poop In the Diaper

Using elimination communication (EC) has been fun, interesting, challenging and even comical.  We give Anjali time to be diaper-free throughout most days when we are home.  Our third floor is nice and toasty, so even in winter, she can have diaper free time.

We are quite happy with EC.  Anjali, now a year old, really has a sense of using the potty.  While we still have many misses, she often communicates when she has to go, or at least holds it until we give her the opportunity to use the potty or toilet.   Yesterday she even made a successful attempt to sit on the potty by herself.  It was really cool to watch, and she was quite proud when she landed there.

Of course, she didn’t pee in the potty.  Instead, she peed on the floor.  I can see why most people would think that’s inconvenient, or messy, or too much work.  But I realized that if she pees on the floor, that simply less time that she will have a wet diaper on.  Who wants to be in a wet diaper?

The funny part is when she poops on the floor.  I think I was afraid of this for a while.  I thought it would be a mess to clean up.  Worse yet, you hear about kids pooping off in some corner and no one finding it for a while.

Actually, though, it is WAY easier to clean up poop from the floor (even a rug) than it is to clean poop out of a diaper, and off of a baby, when she has been sitting in it for a half hour.  Who’s being inconvenienced now?  When we’ve missed poops, it’s a big mess.  It takes a while to clean up.  Anjali doesn’t enjoy it very much either.

The cool thing about EC is the communication, and seeing that Anjali has a real understanding of what’s going on.  She’s developing an independence about the whole thing.

I highly recommend that people simply try this, if nothing else:

Give your baby potty opportunities before and after sleeping.  That’s it.  You might be amazed at the difference that can make.

6 Questions On Elimination Communication (EC), With Christy Santoro

Elimination Communication is the practice of using cues, timing and intuition to address an infant’s need to pee and poop.

This week’s responses to 6 Questions On Elimination Communication come from Christy Santoro. Christy Santoro is a homebirth midwife based in Philadelphia. Her practice is Motherland Midwifery. She and her husband Martin are having the time of their lives with their sweet girl Itzela! Christy was our midwife for Anjali’s birth.

1 – How did you hear about EC? What sources would you recommend?

I first heard about EC through another midwife who was my client 6 years ago and was fascinated by it and really drawn to it in theory. However, once I revisited EC while pregnant it deeply resonated with my parenting aspirations.
My favorite resources is Ingrid Bauer’s Diaper Free: The Gentle Wisdom of Natural Infant Hygiene


Diaper Free:
The Gentle Wisdom of Natural Infant Hygiene

I really love her writing style and overall approach and philosophy. I also really enjoyed the Potty Mouths podcast!

2 – How old was your baby when you started EC?

Itzela first went on the potty when she was 5 days old. We started cuing her and watching her signals the first few days. It was amazing to see how quickly she picked up on the cuing sounds!

3 – What positive responses, if any, have you gotten from friends and family about EC? What are some negative responses?

As a homebirth midwife, I’ve had a lot of positive responses from my clients and a lot more of my clients are trying EC as a result of being exposed to it and seeing us EC as a family. But I was pleasantly surprised how positive and in to EC much of my family has been. My mom and siblings have all pottied Itzela many times and are fascinated by it. I try to emphasize how it isn’t potty training but some folks can’t hear that and that can be frustrating. One of my most negative experiences is that my cousin often chastises her son for not being potty trained yet when “baby Zela” already goes poopy on the potty. I don’t like our EC practice being used as an excuse to shame another kid.

I really appreciated how practicing EC provided an opportunity for my husband to be so connected and attached to our daughter from an early age. I think for partners of breastfeeding/attachment mothers EC affords the chance to really tune in to baby’s needs in a way that is closest to what birth mothers do and that is really a gift!

4 – When practicing EC, what were some of the challenges you experienced?

It is hard for me to think back right now. I know I got completely destroyed with poop a few times in a way that was funny but kinda overwhelming in my early postpartum hormone days. I feel like I’ve mostly done a good job at not being goal or outcome oriented with the practice but still sometimes find myself congratulating Itzela on going on the potty and especially deal with the “good job” trap with my family and sometimes my partner.

We are using sign language and at some point around 5 months we had a few weeks that Itzela would sign potty all the times she needed to go and I thought, “this is great, it will be so much easier now!”. But that stopped after a few weeks and while she uses the sign some it isn’t reliable so we use timing and frequent pottitunities.>/div>

At this time, we are struggling with nighttime. For the first 7-8 months we pottied Itzela through the night and she went months without using a diaper at night-just a prefold under her and a wool skin pad. It worked great but most nights she needed to pee 2-4 times. At about 8 months my sleep deprivation between being a new mom and a midwife caught up to me and I just couldn’t respond and sit up to pee her every time at night so we started using diapers again. For the past 6 weeks or so she was SOAKING her diapers at night in a way we hadn’t experienced ever with her. I think that was partly her going through a developmental phase as it is better now, but we are struggling to get back on track with nighttime.

We are also challenged by different desires/notions between my husband and me about being truly diaper-free or using underwear but we are working on that!

5 – What products made EC doable for you?

We loved our hemp prefold belt-it was so helpful for the early weeks and months. We also loved our red potty hat from Continuum Family and still use that by our bed. We’ve been using the Baby Bjorn Toilet


Baby Bjorn Potty Chair

insert and like that too. And have the Potette Plus for the car and visits to other folks homes. But a tupperware works great too– I’ll never forget my nephew asking, “Why Baby Zela go pee pee in the Tupperware?”

6 – Do you feel like you and your child have been successful with EC? How would you define success?

I feel like it has and will be a success because we are communicating with each other and my husband and I are meeting her needs. I’m not attached to an age we’ll be diaper-free so it is just enjoying the journey. And she is just so darn cute sitting on the potty with a book! EC has been a beautiful and valuable part of our parenting journey!

Christy Santoro is a homebirth midwife based in Philadelphia. Her practice is Motherland Midwifery (please link). She and her husband Martin are having the time of their lives with their sweet girl Itzela!

See other posts on 6 Questions On Elimination Communication:

6 Questions On Elimination Communication, With Wendy Nase

6 Questions On Elimination Communication (EC), With Rossana J

6 Questions on Elimination Communication (EC), with Nancy Kelly

6 Questions On Elimination Communication, With Julia

Pees and Poops and Potty Pauses

I think Anjali may be emerging out of a month-long potty pause. A potty pause is a period of time when a baby practicing Elimination Communication (EC) refuses the potty, does not cue for the potty or changes cues, does not respond to potty cues and typically pees or poops in their diaper more. This can be frustrating for parents.

For us, Anjali was really great in the first 6 and a half months. We changed poopy diapers only about 5 or 6 times! That changed when she started eating solid food, one of the challenges of EC. I guess the whole digestive process flipped the script on her, and pooping became less regular, more difficult and unpredictable. Pees proved just as difficult. Around 7 months we only seemed to be catching one or two, after naps typically, and Anjali’s cues seemed non-existant.

Developmental periods also typically result in potty pauses. So many new skills and things to explore. Anjali would rather play with blocks or attempt to climb steps than let us know she has to pee or poop. Let’s face it, it’s more fun to shake a maraca than do sit on the potty, although both can be done at the same time [insert photo].

Now in her 8th month, Anjali has started to come back on the potty thing. While I’m not 100% on her cues, I am using intuition a lot with a good success rate, at least with pees. We are having some breakthroughs with poops: Anjali has, on a few recent occasions, crawled to the potty when she has to poop. This is real EC Progress!

This is to say that EC can be a roller coaster. But remember that potty pauses are just that–pauses. Keep communicating and giving potty opportunities, and things will come around.

6 Questions On Elimination Communication, With Julia


Elimination Communication is the practice of using cues, timing and intuition to address an infant’s need to poop or pee.

This week’s responses to 6 Questions On Elimination Communication come from Julia, co-leader of the Philadelphia chapter of Diaper Free Baby, stay at home mom and software engineer in a previous life.

1 – How did you hear about EC? What sources would you recommend?
From an article in the magazine “American Baby” which was given to me in the sample pack of stuff you get on your first visit to your doctor when you are pregnant. I would recommend diaperfreebaby.org for anyone who wants to learn more, as well as Christine Gross-Loh’s book The Diaper-Free Baby.

2 – How old was your baby when you started EC?
1 week old for both babies.

3 – What positive responses, if any, have you gotten from friends and family about EC? What are some of the negative responses?
Negative responses: the baby doesn’t “really” have control, it’s too time consuming.

4 –
When practicing EC, what were some of the challenges you experience?
I had this idea in my head that progress would be linear–every month, fewer diapers. It was a shock to me to realize that there are many ups and downs on the EC roller coaster.

5 –
What products made EC doable for you?
The Potette Plus for EC’ing on the go.

6 – Do you feel like you and your child have been successful with EC? How would you define success?
Definitely successful in reducing the number of diapers, and not having to deal with poopy diapers nearly as much as I would have. My daughter was poopy trained at 17 months, which was awesome. However, it took her much longer than I had hoped to be pee trained. We’ll see how it goes with my son (now 10 months old).

See other posts on 6 Questions On Elimination Communication:

6 Questions On Elimination Communication, With Wendy Nase

6 Questions On Elimination Communication (EC), With Rossana J

6 Questions on Elimination Communication (EC), with Nancy Kelly



6 Questions On Elimination Communication, With Wendy Nase

Elimination Communication is the practice of using cues, timing and intuition to address an infant’s need to eliminate.

After working with young children professionally for years, Wendy is now thrilled to be able to work from home while she cares for her two children, ages 4 years and 11 months.

  1. How did you hear about EC? What sources would you recommend? My mother metioned several times that her mother had trained her four daughters by 6 months and her son by 12 months by watching for signs that the babies had to use the potty and taking them when they needed to go. After also reading in a BabyCenter Mother’s Day email about how mothers around the potty train, I started to research infant potty training and found lots of information on EC. I would recommend internet research as a jumping off point and for continued support during the process. Although I’ve done alot of reading on EC, I’ve found my childen to be my best teachers in the process.
  2. How old was your baby when you started EC? My first child was 10 months old when we started. My second child was 12 hours old.
  3. What positive responses, if any, have you gotten from friends and family about EC? What are some negative responses? Most friends and family have been curious and supportive. Most people have not been openly negative toward me (at least to my face). One comment that I hear alot is that natural infant hygeine is really about training the parent. Honestly, I think potty training a preschooler is more about training the parent than EC. (How fast does the parent of a three year run their child to the bathroom when he/she does the potty dance?). EC is neither training the parent nor training the child, it is simply meeting the child’s needs by helping a child eliminate in a more appropriate place than his or her clothing. The most negatively ridiculous response (not to my face) was that babies should not have to communicate the need to eliminate because babies should not be forced to communicate ANYTHING to their caregivers. I’d hate to be a child in that house! My babies have communicated to me when they are hungry, tired, bored, shy, overstimulated, AND when they need to use the potty and I am happy to be able to meet their needs.
  4. When practicing EC, what were some of the challenges you experienced? Nighttime EC can be really tough because it requires a parent to wake up enough to think about the fact that the baby needs to sit on the potty (it’s well worth the improved sleep of a comfortable child, though). “Potty pauses” can be difficult, especially when children are going through developmental spurts and are too busy to want to sit on the potty (for instance when they are learning to stand and their potty puts them in the perfect squatting position to practice their stand-squat-stand-squat routine!).
  5. What products made EC doable for you? plastic hospital washbasin for newborn stage, Baby Bjorn Little Potty for home and travel, Pottette for traveling lightly, cloth training pants/cloth diapers, baby sling for staying connected and interpreting physical signals
  6. Do you feel like you and your child have been successful with EC? How would you define that success? I feel that we’ve been very successful with EC with both of our children. Although the end result of EC success is a potty-trained child, success is achieved much earlier in the form of a happier child. A great deal of mutual satisfaction comes when a parent meets each physical and emotional need that may arise and EC is one way to consistently meet a basic physical need, which builds trust between caregiver and child. The bond that has come as a result of my children’s needs being met, rather than ignored, is the greatest indicator of success.

Challenges of Elimination Communication (EC)


Well, perhaps I jinxed it. In the first 7 months of Anjali’s life, we had to change/clean only about 5 or 6 poopy diapers. Thank goodness for the benefits of elimination communication (EC). However, those days are over, at least for now.

Causes?

  • She is eating solid food now (in addition to breast milk), so her digestion process is very different and new to her.
  • She is crawling, climbing and generally more mobile.
  • She is much more interested in playing, climbing, exploring, etc. than being set on a potty.
  • Gravity is her friend. She seems to prefer to pee and poop standing up, more than sitting.

As a result her cues are a bit confusing to us. Madhavi and I are still seeing cues. but we often realize them after the damage has been done.

After discussing with some of my diaper-free friends online and at a Diaper-Free Baby (Eastern PA) meeting, this “potty pause” is not uncommon.

We are hoping to see the light in the near future though. In the meantime, we still give Anjali plenty of potty opportunities, communicate with her and help her. And we are still catching plenty of post-nap/sleep potties.

6 Questions On Elimination Communication (EC), With Rossana J

Elimination Communication is the practice of using cues, timing and intuition to address an infant’s need to eliminate.

Rossana is a mom to 4 girls who are 9.5, 8.5, 5.5 and 2 yrs old. They live in the northeast section of Philadelphia and we are homeschooling our daughters.

1. How did you hear about EC? What sources would you recommend?
I heard about EC a few times before I started it. My mother-in-law is from Jamaica and she said something when my first daughter was a few mnths old about how she sat her son on the potty. It totally went against what I knew at the time so I thought she was misremembering the age of her son and that he was really much older (like 2 yrs old). I heard about EC again in a piece on NPR about Pampers trying to get a market in China. They really didn’t explain EC too much but I remember the babies peeing when their mothers whistled. Then I got an email for the Natural Child Project and the Diaper Free book was mentioned with a link to her website. I was intrigued and I looked at the link and decided to buy the book before the birth of my 3rd daughter.

2. How old was your baby when you started EC?
My 3rd was about 2 wks old when we started to EC. With my 4th daughter we started when she was just a few hours old.

3. What positive responses, if any, have you gotten from friends and family about EC? What are some negative responses?
As with anything else a parent does there are some people who will praise and others who will complain. With the praises, some have said they wished they knew about it when their children were babies. Others like how gentle it is and how it is better for the environment, The negatives are that it is gross or that it is too difficult to do.

4. When practicing EC, what were some of the challenges you experienced? Some of the challenges we experienced were my daughters refusing to use the potty and then going on the floor, finding the right clothing to EC and getting more support from others who don’t EC.

5. What products made EC doable for you? I love my little plastic Rubbermaid bowl. It is great to sit my daughter over it and very portable so I carry it in my bag. We also use the Ikea little potties and they are working out well. My Ergo and Mei Tei were good to have for EC because I would carry my daughter in them and when she needed to pee she would squirm to get out. It was unlikely for her to pee in the carrier.

6. Do you feel like you and your child have been successful with EC? How would you define that success?
I do feel like I was successful with ECing my girls because we learned to communicate with one another about elimination. I don’t think success is my baby stopped using diapers at this age so I am successful. I was successful because every pee and poop that went into the potty was one less on their skin, because we avoided many diaper rashes and because we understood what different signs our girls used to let us know that they needed to potty and even when our girls didn’t show any signs at all we would just know that they needed to use the potty.

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6 Questions on Elimination Communication (EC), with Nancy Kelly


Elimination Communication is the practice of using cues, timing and intuition to address an infant’s need to eliminate.

Nancy Kelly is a stay-at-home mom blogging at www.thekellynewlyweds.blogspot.com. She and her husband Christopher subscribe to the “what works” parenting philosophy–a blend of parenting strategies gleaned from books, friends and family, and their own experiences. EC is a part of their of baby-raising techniques. Nancy says, “As a family, we also enjoy teaching our son Luke sign language, introducing him to new and interesting foods, walking with him in our neighborhood and beyond, and traveling to places of interest.”

1. How did you hear about EC? What sources would you recommend?

From your wife! I had never heard of EC when she mentioned you were going to try it with your baby. I googled it, and found great videos of babies using toilets and potties. Initially, I laughed at the idea because it seemed so unorthodox. It wasn’t until I read more that I learned diapers are not the norm in other parts of the world.

I would recommend joining a local EC group. Both in-person and virtual support has been incredibly valuable for us.

2. How old was your baby when you started EC?

He was three weeks old.

3. What positive responses, if any, have you gotten from friends and family about EC? What are some negative responses?

Positive: Lots of people have mentioned that they wish they had known about EC or just thought to introduce the potty earlier to their children. Some think Luke must be some kind of genius child, and though I enjoy hearing praise for my son, I usually explain that all babies can do this.

Negative: Not a whole lot of negative, although someone once said I should be careful not to “damage” my son by putting too much pressure on him to eliminate on command. I don’t worry about this too much, because we are very laid back about EC, as with most things.

4. When practicing EC, what were some of the challenges you experienced?

We rarely caught poops before solid food introduction. There never seemed to be a recognizable pattern to our son’s poops prior to five-and-a-half months. Also, we experienced lots of misses, even when giving a lot of attention to cues from our baby. We have had messy days, as well. EC doesn’t always save washing our diapers (for some families EC is practiced regularly, and diapering is sometime infrequent), but for us, we don’t do it to save a load of wash. We like the exposure Luke has to eliminating in his potty. We do believe early introduction of the potty will help us with the conventional “potty-training” period, although that may be another challenge lurking in our future!

5. What products made EC doable for you?

Water-proof lap pads. I used these often during diaper-free time. I would lay them on the floor or on the baby gym where our son would play, and they would “catch” anything the potty did not. However, our washing machine is the best thing for making EC work for us!

6. Do you feel like you and your child have been successful with EC? How would you define that success?
Absolutely! We do not pressure ourselves to catch everything, so Luke is in diapers whenever he’s not on the potty or enjoying some naked time in our house. Once we realized that our definition of success was a balance of EC, diaper-free time, cloth diapering, and even times with disposables, we felt no stress. It was at that time, that we began to have more catches than misses! Success for us is doing EC in a way that fits our lives.

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Benefits of Elimination Communication (EC) – Guest Post on Eco Child’s Play

Today I am going to send you to a guest post I did on The Benefits of Elimination Communication (EC), at Eco Child’s Play: Green parenting for non-toxic, healthy homes. It is a great blog by Jennifer Lance, with poignant articles and commentary on everything from birthing to eco-toys.
I am happy to announce that I will be doing more guest-posting at Eco Child’s Play in the near future…

Prior to our daughter Anjali’s birth, some close friends (who also had a baby on the way) asked us, “So are you using disposable diapers, cloth diapers or going diaper-free?”

We had already made plans to cloth diaper. But what of this diaper-free? Well, who knew how quickly and determinately we could learn and incorporate Elimination Communication (EC), a more appropriate name than diaper-free. Now I cannot imagine taking a different path with our daughter.

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